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Rivalry and mistrust between the U.S. and China have shaken the confidence of the business world and pushed the relationship between the two countries to its lowest point in decades.

But walking away from the deep economic ties that have been forged in the past decades is simply not an option, the U.S. ambassador to China, Nicholas Burns, told “60 Minutes.” 

The relationship with China is the most important, most competitive and most dangerous the U.S. has in the world, Burns said – and he believes that’s not changing anytime soon.

“Some people are saying, ‘Well, we’re so competitive with China, we should end the economic relationship,'” Burns said. “Well, the consequence of that would be 750,000 American families wouldn’t be able to put dinner on the table.”

That’s because ties between the two economic giants directly support American workers growing, producing and exporting goods and services to China.

U.S.-China competition 

Navigating America’s competing interests in China is a difficult balancing act for Burns. 

“We have competing interests here, and balancing those interests is the reality in the U.S.-China relationship,” he said during an interview in Beijing. “We’re going to compete. We have to compete responsibly and keep the peace between our countries. But we also have to engage.”

U.S. Ambassador to China Nicholas Burns
U.S. Ambassador to China Nicholas Burns

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China and the U.S. are aggressively competing on artificial intelligence, biotechnology and quantum mathematics. Advances in those fields, Burns said, will lead to a new generation of military technology. 

“Our two militaries are vying for military supremacy, ‘Who’s going to be the most powerful in the most important, strategic part of the world, which is the Indo-Pacific,'” Burns said.

President Xi Jinping likes to say that the East is rising and the West is declining, but economically, the U.S. is thriving compared to China. China’s economy is facing high youth unemployment, slow growth and a potential debt crunch. In December, credit rating agency Moody’s cut its outlook for China to negative. 

China is also facing a long-term demographic bind. A decline in the birth rate, which some experts say is irreversible, means the country’s population is both aging and shrinking. 

And in January, Chinese real estate giant Evergrande was ordered to liquidate its remaining assets. Developers across China have run out of money to complete construction, leaving millions of Chinese citizens who had paid for apartments before they were built in the lurch.

Despite its slowing economy, China has the U.S. beat in many markets. China, with heavy government subsidies, is expected to overtake Japan as the world’s biggest exporter of cars.  Last quarter, the carmaker BYD surpassed Tesla as the best-selling EV maker in the world. The country also dominates in the wind turbine market. 

“They’re the leading trade partner of twice as many countries in the world as the United States, so they have global reach,” Burns said. 

In his annual New Year’s speech, President Xi talked about the country’s economic woes and, for the first time, acknowledged the high unemployment rate. Still, he has laid out a long-term goal of doubling China’s economy by 2035 and surpassing the West in technology.

Risks and rewards in China

Many U.S. companies operating in China are already thriving. Disney recently expanded its Shanghai Disneyland and Aptar, a $9 billion company headquartered in Illinois, invested $60 million in a new factory in China. Aptar Asia President Xiangwei Gong said that even in a slowing economy, the company is doing well. She pointed to business opportunities in health care, cosmetics and packaged foods.

“We are here for the long-term and we believe in the consumption power of the rising middle class,” Gong said. “It’s 1.4 billion people here.”

Xiangwei Gong speaks with Lesley Stahl
Xiangwei Gong speaks with Lesley Stahl

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Walmart has more than 300 locations across China. Shoppers can buy Levi’s, browse in Apple stores and get frappuccinos at one of around 6,000 Starbucks locations in China. Boeing, Tesla, Pfizer, Chevron and Intel all do work out of China. U.S. financial firms have strong operations in the country as well. The Chinese government says there are tens of thousands of U.S. companies in China. 

Still, other companies and business leaders are wary, despite the lure of a country that’s home to so many potential consumers. For the first time in more than 40 years, more money is leaving China than is coming in from American, Japanese, European and Korean investors, Burns said. 

The ambassador pointed out that in the decades before President Xi, China powered its economy by investing in high-speed trains, roads, factories and skyscrapers. Yet in the last year, China lost more than $120 billion in long-term foreign investments, according to Beijing data.

Harsh government tactics have left American companies uncertain of the future.

“I think there’s been a contradiction in the messaging from the government here in China to the rest of the world. On the one hand, they say, ‘We’re open for business. We want American, Japanese businesses here,'” Burns said. “But on the other hand, they’ve raided six or seven American businesses since last March.”

The Mintz Group, a company that does due diligence for other companies that might want to invest in China, was raided last year. Five of its Chinese employees were taken into custody. Another firm, Capvision, was also raided. A report on state-run television accused Western consulting firms of espionage and stealing national security and military secrets.

“I think they want to control data about the Chinese people, about Chinese companies. That, I think, is at the heart of the problem with those American companies operating in that sphere,” Burns said. 

“Our two countries have to live together”

Presidents Biden and Xi met in San Francisco in November in the hopes of easing tensions, especially around the South China Sea, where Beijing has been building up military bases, increasing air sorties near Taiwan and buzzing around U.S. military planes. 

“I think we’re back to a more settled and stable relationship between the two countries, but it’s been a rollercoaster,” Burns said.

The two countries are deeply connected economically. 

China was the third largest purchaser of U.S. exports in 2022, according to the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative. It was also the top supplier of goods to the U.S. that year, accounting for 16.5% of total goods imports. China is also the largest export market for U.S agricultural products, accounting for $40.9 billion in 2022.

Lesley Stahl and U.S. Ambassador to China Nicholas Burns
Lesley Stahl and U.S. Ambassador to China Nicholas Burns

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“Our two countries have to live together. And this, I think, is the greatest tension in the U.S.-China relationship. China’s our most significant competitor,” Burns said. “And at the same time, China is our third largest trade partner — 750,000 American jobs at stake.”

No one from the Chinese government would give “60 Minutes” an interview.

Burns views China as an “adversary” stronger than the Soviet Union was from the 1940s through the 1980s. He also doesn’t foresee an easing of tensions around the South China Sea. 

“I think ultimately, they want to become and overtake the United States as the dominant country globally,” Burns said. “And we don’t want that to happen. We don’t want to live in a world where the Chinese are the dominant country.”



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Floods, landslides struck parts of Bosnia as residents slept, leaving at least 16 dead and several missing

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A severe rainstorm struck Bosnia overnight Friday, killing at least 16 people in floods and landslides in several towns and villages in central and southern parts of the country, with surging waters rushing into people’s homes as they were sleeping.

Rescue services in the south said several people were missing and called on volunteers and the army to assist as roads were closed and houses left without electricity.

Josip Kalem, a resident of Fojnica, one of the towns hit by the floods, said his dog’s barking woke him up at around 4 a.m. When he came out on the terrace, he saw the water rising rapidly.

“I came down, woke up my wife, and we looked around, we could not get out of the house. We saw more and more water coming in,” he said. “All of a sudden, the water was flooding the garage, basement, my car — everything. The water swept it all away, including my dog. Flood took it downstream.”

Andja Milesic, another resident of Fojnica, also said she was caught by surprise in the middle of the night.

“When I woke up, my bedroom floor was already soaked. I walked into the hallway — water was everywhere — the living room, everywhere,” she said. “It was horrible.”

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A car is submerged in flood waters outside an apartment building in the village of Kiseljak, northern Bosnia, Friday, Oct. 4, 2024.

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Darko Juka, a spokesman for the local administration, said at least 14 people had died in and around the southern town of Jablanica. Officials later said two more bodies have been found.

“Those are the ones who have been discovered by rescuers,” he said. “We still don’t know the final death toll.”

“I don’t remember such a crisis since the war,” Juka said referring to the 1992-95 war in Bosnia that left the country in ruins. “The scale of this chaotic situation is harrowing.”

Defense Minister Zukan Helez told N1 regional television that troops have been engaged to help and that the casualties were reported.

Helez said that “hour after hour we are receiving news about new victims. … Our first priority is to save the people who are alive and buried in houses where the landslides are.”

A pregnant woman lost her baby after she was rescued from the floods and transferred to a hospital in the regional center of Mostar. Authorities said doctors were fighting for her life as well. Separately, a child was successfully rescued and hospitalized, local officials said.

Rescue services in the towns of Jablanica and Kiseljak said the power was off overnight and mobile phones lost their signal.

The Jablanica fire station said that the town was completely inaccessible because roads and trainlines were closed.

“The police informed us that the railroad is also blocked,” the state rescue service said in a statement. “You can’t get in or out of Jablanica at the moment. Landline phones are working, but mobile phones have no signal.”

It urged people not to venture out on the flooded streets.

Human-caused climate change increases the intensity of rainfall because warm air holds more moisture. This summer, the Balkans were also hit by long-lasting record temperatures, causing a drought. Scientists said the dried-out land has hampered the absorption of floodwaters.

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Apartment buildings are reflected at a flooded soccer field after a heavy rain in the village of Kiseljak, northern Bosnia, Friday, Oct. 4, 2024.

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Drone footage broadcast on Bosnian media showed villages and towns completely submerged under water, while videos on social networks showed dramatic scenes of muddy torrents and damaged roads.

One of the busiest roads linking Sarajevo with the Adriatic coast via Jablanica was swept into a river, together with a railway line in a huge landslide, according to photos.

“Many people are endangered because of big waters and landslides. There is information about victims and many injured and missing persons,” said the civic protection service.

Authorities urged people to stay on the upper floors of their homes. Reports said surging waters swept away domestic animals and cars as the water swiftly filled up lower floors of buildings.

The heavy rains and strong winds were also reported in neighboring Croatia, where several roads were closed and the capital of Zagreb prepared for the swollen Sava River to burst its banks.

Heavy winds have hampered traffic along the southern coast of the Adriatic Sea, and flash floods caused by heavy rain threatened several towns and villages in Croatia.

Floods caused by torrential rains were also reported in Montenegro, south of Bosnia, where some villages were cut off and roads and homes flooded.

In 2014, floodwaters triggered more than 3,000 landslides across the Balkans, laying waste to entire towns and villages and disturbing land mines leftover from the region’s 1990s war, along with warning signs that marked the unexploded weapons.



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