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Last-known images of missing mom Jermain Charlo are caught on tape. Will they lead to a break in the Montana case?
On Highway 93, en route to Missoula, it’s hard to miss this billboard and Jermain Charlo’s haunting gaze.
Missoula police detective Guy Baker has been searching for Jermain for more than six years.
Det. Guy Baker: When I see that billboard … I’m frustrated. … We’ve … just time and time again, come up empty handed …
The last known images of Jermain Charlo were captured on surveillance video on Friday, June 15, 2018, in downtown Missoula. Jermain is seen chatting with people outside a bar called The Badlander.
A little before midnight Jermain walks away from the camera, a man by her side, and disappears into the night.
Six years later, with no arrest and no publicly named suspect, police released the video to “48 Hours” hoping to generate leads.
Det. Guy Baker: Someone out there knows what happened to Jermain Charlo. … Jermain walks out of view … so, maybe somebody saw something … that has never thought about contacting us. … so, if anybody has any information about that night or any aspect of this investigation. I encourage them to call me.
For Jermain’s aunts, Dani Matt and Valenda Morigeau, this painful ordeal began on Saturday June 16, 2018, with a call from Jermain’s grandmother.
Valenda Morigeau: She was very close with my mom. My mom’s actually the one who had called me and said, “Have you heard from Jermain?” And I said, “No.”
The family says Jermain never went anywhere without her phone, so it would be unusual for her not to text or call. They knew she had been in Missoula.
Valenda Morigeau: So, I kept calling her, calling her …
And when she didn’t answer her phone, Matt had a feeling something wasn’t right.
Dani Matt: We’d called … the hospitals, to the shelters, anywhere we could think of … just ’cause it was not natural for her not to talk to my mother like she did on a daily basis.
Michelle Miller: She disappeared without a trace?
Dani Matt: Nothing.
The family was sick with worry.
No one had heard from her, and she had not returned to her home on the Flathead Reservation, about 40 miles from Missoula. On Monday, June 18, 48 hours after Jermain was last seen, Morigeau contacted authorities for help.
Valenda Morigeau: Because she went missing out of Missoula, I had called Missoula Police Department to … let them know she had gone missing.
Valenda Morigeau: There was, like, no sense of let’s make sure that we check all the boxes and make sure that we’ve done everything that we can to make sure she’s safe.
The family also contacted the Flathead Reservation police.
Police Chief Craige Couture: We try to get as much information out there as we can, try to get flyers, pictures, whatever we can do out there. … As the days go on people start thinking, hold on, maybe there is … more to this than just she’s gone.
Then, on June 20, four days after Jermain disappeared, Morigeau made the drive from the Flathead Reservation to the Missoula Police Department, officially filed a missing person report and met with a detective assigned to Jermain’s case.
Valenda Morigeau: He did his “due diligence,” and he checked the hospitals and the homeless shelters. … I was told that … she was not in immediate danger.
Morigeau knew in her heart Jermain was in immediate danger. Frightened and frustrated, the family reached out again.
THE SEARCH FOR JERMAIN CHARLO
Volunteer searches were organized.
Jen Murphy: I’ve been on a couple of the searches …
Michelle Miller: Describe them to me.
Jen Murphy: They’re heartbreaking.
Jen Murphy is an educator living in Montana.
Jen Murphy: Every little step that you take … it’s a grid search, so you can’t be any farther than an arms-length apart … so that you don’t miss anything. … So, grid searching a mountain with trees that are right next to each other is almost impossible.
During one of those searches Murphy met Valenda Morigeau.
Michelle Miller: How would you describe your bond with Valenda?
Jen Murphy: She’s like a sister to me now.
Michelle Miller: So, her pain is your pain?
Jen Murphy: Absolutely.
After Jermain had been missing for about 10 days, Baker, who’d just come back from vacation, volunteered to take over the case.
Michelle Miller: Is it unusual for someone to go missing in Missoula?
Det. Guy Baker: Uh, no. No … I think we have sometimes multiple people per week … 97, 98% statewide reported missing people are found … so it’s that 2% that are the difficult ones.
Baker was concerned Jermain’s case was among that difficult 2%. Then, in mid-July, one month after her disappearance, there seemed to be a new and disturbing development.
NEWS REPORT | JILL VALLEY | KPAX: Missoula police are concerned that a missing Dixon woman might be held somewhere against her will tonight. They are continuing to investigate the disappearance of 23-year-old Jermain Charlo who also goes by the name “Liz.”
Det. Guy Baker: We had some information early on that there might have been some people in Missoula from outta state that were trying to buy a girl, and I was thinking there was a connection there.
Brittany Williams: There are thousands of rural areas and miles to go across this state and there are people who are extremely vulnerable.
Brittany Williams is a Missoula County deputy attorney.
Michelle Miller: Human trafficking is a huge problem nationwide … But how does it differ in Montana?
Brittany Williams: I would say it differs from a lack of knowledge.
Brittany Williams: I think people have an idea that Montana is rural and undeveloped, and we don’t have major crimes that occur here, But the fact of the matter is we have one of the largest interstates that runs through our state right here through Missoula, Montana.
Brittany Williams: There are people who can be swept away in an instant and because of … lack of GPS or cell towers you might never hear from that person again, — in a matter of minutes, they could be gone, and they could be trafficked to another state … potentially another country.
If Jermain Charlo was a victim of trafficking could law enforcement find her?
WHERE IS JERMAIN CHARLO?
While Detective Baker was investigating the possibility Jermain Charlo may have been a victim of sex trafficking, her family was desperately trying to get her back home.
Dani Matt: We called her phone … seems like a million times over … tried to Facebook, FaceTime –
Valenda Morigeau: Even from the time she was a little kid … she had like the best personality. she’s very outgoing …
Dani Matt: Beautiful, resilient … animal lover. Oh gosh, the list of pets she had is —
Valenda Morigeau: I think she had, like, a flying squirrel or something.
Dani Matt: And then a pig.
Valenda Morigeau: She had two pigs.
Valenda Morigeau: She’s very outdoorsy … she had always loved to be by the river and fishing.
Morigeau was only 10 when her niece Jermain was born. Soon they were as close as sisters.
Valenda Morigeau: When she was born, I didn’t like her at all (laughs) … I was the baby of the family, and she stole my thunder … and then one day my grandma was cooking … and Jermain … she needed to be fed. My grandma’s like, “hold this baby.” I was like … I remember like looking at her, I was like, all right you’re not that bad. And then from that day on, she was my baby. … she was my baby sister.
Jermain was creative and imaginative.
Valenda Morigeau: She was an amazing artist.
Her dream was to attend the Institute of American Indian Arts in New Mexico.
Valenda Morigeau: She was like using fingernail polish to make an octopus. … (laughs) she would, like, crochet grocery bags to try to save the environment.
Dani Matt: That girl could do anything she set her mind to. I swear she was so smart and so talented.
Jermain grew up on the Flathead Reservation.
Dani Matt: You’ve got the confluence of the Flathead and Jocko Rivers. You’ve got the bison range right next to you and mountains, you know, as far as you can see. A really strong sense of community.
And Jermain Charlo’s roots run deep on this reservation. She’s a member of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai tribes and a descendant of Chief Charlo, known for his peaceful resistance during the 1870s when the tribe was forced to move from their ancestral land in Montana’s Bitterroot Valley to the Flathead Reservation.
Michelle Miller: We are on tribal land?
Dani Matt: Yes.
Jermain was balancing life while coparenting her two young sons, Jacob and Thomas. Her relationship with their father was strained.
Valenda Morigeau: Oh, she was a great mother. … Her world revolved around those boys. She wanted to teach ’em all about fishing and hunting … take ’em to the fair, try to give ’em the best life she knew how.
Jermain had been working at the Big River Cantina on the Flathead Reservation. She was hoping to find work as a seasonal firefighter and had an interview scheduled. But she didn’t show up.
Michelle Miller: Is she the first Native woman to disappear from the Flathead Reservation?
Brittany Williams: No.
Missoula County Deputy Attorney Brittany Williams knows it all too well. In Montana, Indigenous persons make up only about six percent of the population, but 24 percent of the state’s active missing persons cases.
Michelle Miller: Would you consider it to be an epidemic?
Brittany Williams: I would, yes.
Michelle Miller: And is there any indication why?
Brittany Williams: I think that there’s — that’s a very complex question. There’s a lot of history there.
Jen Murphy: I think there’s just so many different factors that go into each missing person. From domestic violence to human trafficking, to poverty, to homelessness.
As law enforcement began digging deeper into Jermain Charlo’s disappearance, they would rule out the possibility the 23-year-old mother of two had been a victim of trafficking.
Brittany Williams: That was initially an avenue of investigation … Ultimately, I don’t believe that she was trafficked.
Michelle Miller: Why?
Brittany Williams: I think that we have enough evidence through this investigation that lends itself to believe something else has happened to her.
Jermain posted a TikTok video, lip synching lines from a TV show the day she disappeared. It’s the same image seen in her missing poster billboard. She’s wearing the same clothes in the surveillance video.
Baker discovered the video early in his investigation, and he shared excerpts of it with “48 Hours.” He told us that the man standing behind Jermain in the video was Michael DeFrance — Jermain’s ex-boyfriend and the father of their two children. He agreed to speak with police without a lawyer.
Michelle Miller: You believe Michael DeFrance was the last person to see Jermain Charlo?
Det. Guy Baker: That’s what the investigation has determined — and he told us that.
According to police, sometime around midnight, DeFrance and Jermain walked away and got in his 2011 brown Dodge truck.
Det. Guy Baker: He said that uh … they left the downtown area and that he … dropped her off … and that — that ended their night together.
According to law enforcement, “Michael DeFrance stated he dropped Jermain off at the Orange Street Food Farm. Michael DeFrance did this because Jermain stated that her friend ‘Cassidy’ lived nearby, and Jermain was going to spend the night there.”
Michael DeFrance dropped Jermain off at approximately “0100 hours” — 1 a.m. Police didn’t find a “Cassidy,” but they learned Jermain had been visiting Missoula regularly because she was dating a man named Jacob who lived in that neighborhood.
Valenda Morigeau: They had met on a dating app, and they weren’t together for very long … but it seemed like they had a very strong connection, and he was just totally infatuated with her.
Authorities say Jacob was out of town — miles away in another state. Morigeau says he and Jermain were texting each other that night before she disappeared.
Valenda Morigeau: Her plan, according to, like, her message to him, was that she was gonna go back to his place that night ’cause he was out of town.
According to law enforcement, when “Jacob attempted to call Jermain” shortly before 1 a.m. on June 16, he “… thought it was strange because the phone rang several times before it went to voicemail. Jacob felt that somebody purposely ended the call.”
Brittany Williams: And this particular call that was made to her has been shown through the carrier to have been silenced by someone.
Jacob also told police that the day before she disappeared, “Jermain told Jacob that Michael had been yelling at her, asking if she was dating anyone and wanted to get back together with her.”
Police say Jacob cooperated with the investigation and was never considered a suspect.
It’s unsettling to see Jermain Charlo, socializing that night, and Michael DeFrance — the last known person to see her alive — and not know what they were talking about or what may have been going on between them.
DeFrance has not been named as a suspect in Jermain’s disappearance.
“48 Hours” showed the surveillance video to Morigeau and Matt. They’re seeing it for the first time.
Dani Matt: Mm-hmm, there she is.
Valenda Morigeau: For her to be walking in front of him … it seems like he keeps like trying to catch up to her.
They sensed Jermain was sending a message about DeFrance.
Valenda Morigeau: And she’s … you know we gotta go our separate ways.
KEEPING JERMAIN CHARLO’S CASE RELEVANT
Jermain Charlo never went anywhere without her phone. So, it was crucial for investigators to find it.
Det. Guy Baker: We got cellphone data … linked to Jermain’s cellphone that indicated it was active on the night she disappeared, and it was active multiple times, primarily between the hours of 2 a.m. … and up until just about 10 a.m. on the 16th of June.
Michelle Miller: And where was the phone?
Det. Guy Baker: So, the phone’s never been recovered, so we don’t know where the phone was, but judging by the information we got from the tower … it was most definitely north of Missoula, and it was in the area of Evaro Hill.
Evaro Hill is on the Flathead Reservation. It’s a rugged area with lots of trees and wildlife. It’s a place Michael DeFrance knows well.
Brittany Williams: He lives specifically up on the Evaro Hill area … he was the last person to be with Jermain Charlo before her life, as we know it, came to a standstill.
Searches have been conducted on Evaro Hill, but Jermain was not found.
Jen Murphy: There’s always that hope that she’s out there somewhere.
Jen Murphy, who has joined several volunteer searches for Jermain, came up with the idea to put Jermain Charlo’s missing poster on a billboard.
Jen Murphy: I currently am doing a project with billboards throughout Montana and throughout the United States. … I try to — have billboards as close to our reservations as possible … trying to make sure that — speaking to the perpetrators too, like, “we see you.”
The investigation into Jermain’s disappearance is just one of many cases of missing and murdered Indigenous women – known as MMIW. In 2019, the Justice Department created a task force to investigate cases of missing and murdered Indigenous people around the country.
Social media has helped to ignite the movement. At the 2024 Emmy Awards, “Reservation Dogs” actor and nominee D’Pharoah Woon-A-Tai was on the red carpet, bringing attention to the crisis.
Jen Murphy: I feel like we’re all of the human race and should be looked for the same. … It’s not like we’re asking for special treatment, we’re just asking for the same treatment. … We’re not going to stop looking for our people … We’re not. Our lives matter.
A photo shoot with Vina Little Owl was in the same alley where Jermain was last seen.
Jen Murphy: Starts out with … praying and trying to set yourself right … to painting on the paint.
Vina Little Owl (leading the prayer): We offer a moment of silence in a space for our sisters.
Michelle Miller: What does the red hand mean?
Jen Murphy: The red handprint really symbolizes … our people being silenced … how we have always been looked at differently and that our people have not been heard in the same way that other people are. … That’s a harsh reality and it has been since the beginning of time … since colonization.
Jermain’s family can’t help but wonder about how her case was treated in those critical, early days in the investigation.
Valenda Morigeau: When I reported her missing, there was no sense of urgency. … I don’t know if it’s because she’s … over … 18 or … because she was drinking or the fact that she was Native American.
Lead detective Guy Baker can’t speak to those first days of the investigation. Remember, he didn’t get the case until 10 days after Jermain disappeared. But he’s well aware that some missing persons cases do get more attention than others.
Det. Guy Baker: You know, just look at our national media. Gabby Petito goes missing and look at the national exposure she got for a week or two for a Caucasian female and how many missing Native American females went missing in that same time period and got nothing. … so I’ve made a concerted effort … to keep Jermain relevant.
It’s Baker’s hope that by releasing the surveillance video to “48 Hours,” he’ll gain new leads. For Morigeau and Matt, it’s the last glimpse of Jermain’s life the night she disappeared.
Michelle Miller (watching the surveillance video): Do you see her?
Valenda Morigeau: Yeah. … Being social.
Dani Matt: Silly, being herself.
It’s the last glimpse of Jermain’s life the night she disappeared.
Dani Matt: Jermain, her bubbly self is beautiful to — to see her, um, hurts at the same time, but, um, so full of life.
Then, they zero in on the man standing behind Jermain: Michael DeFrance.
Dani Matt (watching the security video): Introduces him.
Valenda Morigeau (watching the security video): Then he’s got his arms crossed like and rolls up his sleeves like trying to intimidate whoever that dude is that she’s talking to.
Michelle Miller: Does it tell you anything?
Valenda Morigeau: It kind of shows me his demeanor that night. … looks like he’s in a rush to leave and that he’s annoyed that she’s — her attention isn’t focused on him.
Matt was surprised and relieved to see there were other people — potential witnesses — in the alley that night.
Danielle Matt: There’s a lot of people which reassures me that somebody knows something. Somebody’s seen her … somebody’s gotta know what that conversation was.
Baker says he spoke with several of the people seen on the video, but because this investigation is still active, he wouldn’t say much about what he learned.
Valenda Morigeau: I’m hoping that maybe by chance, somebody … saw them and just has no idea that she’s been missing and says something and that is just like the small missing piece that we need.
A RELATIONSHIP UNDER THE MICROSCOPE
While authorities did not name DeFrance as a suspect in Jermain’s disappearance, they did want to learn more about the couple’s relationship.
They started at the beginning. Jermain Charlo was 14 when she met 16-year-old Michael DeFrance in 2010 when his family moved in across the street. They both enjoyed fishing on the river and taking long walks. The teens were practically inseparable, but there were red flags.
Valenda Morigeau: I don’t remember why I had her phone, but, like, I had found some explicit photos of her on her phone … like, you know, I had mentioned it to Michael … I was like, “she was never like this before,” like, “you know this is not OK. This is not something that you guys should be sharing at your age.”
Michelle Miller: What was his reaction?
Valenda Morigeau: He didn’t really say much.
Despite family disapproval, Jermain continued to see DeFrance. Then in April 2013, just two weeks shy of Jermain’s 18th birthday, Morigeau got a harrowing call.
Valenda Morigeau: There was an incident where um, she had called me and said, “auntie I need you down here. Michael hit me.”
According to court documents, DeFrance, who was 19, admitted he assaulted Jermain: “On 4-14-2013 in Sanders County I caused bodily injury to my girlfriend.” The documents also state how he hurt Jermain: “The Defendant made the following admissions: That he hit her 3 times. That he used his fist.”
Danielle Matt: It was hard to hear that and see her go through that and the emotional phone calls and conversations that followed … you know, she was a kid.
DeFrance pleaded guilty to partner family member assault. He wouldn’t serve any jail time, but he would be prohibited from possessing firearms.
Despite the violence, Jermain and DeFrance remained together. Jermain’s family says she was staying with DeFrance in a camper on his parents’ property.
A few months later, DeFrance left town to work as a seasonal firefighter.
Jermain, alone, lonely, and living in a camper, began sharing her world on YouTube:
I’m home alone for two more weeks. So, every day, blog will probably be only me until my boyfriend/fiancé gets home from work.
I usually don’t do much. I’m just … supposed to be a housewife.
Valenda Morigeau: She was very good about hiding pain … and try to pretend like everything was OK.
Soon, they were young parents raising their two boys. But Morigeau says the violence continued.
Valenda Morigeau: Multiple times of getting phone calls and going down to make sure she was OK and … it was hard for us to watch her go back, but that’s what happens to a lot of women who were victims of domestic violence.
Danielle Matt: They’d break up and make up and breakup and make up.
According to Matt, the couple eventually broke up for good in 2017.
Danielle Matt: Michael … still wanted Jermain to do as Michael said. And, so, when Jermain started to create a life without him, um, it seems like things got worse for her … she was the mother of his kids and had to kind of walk on eggshells around what Michael wanted or how you know he pictured her or wanted her to be as mom.
In early 2018, just months before her disappearance, Jermain and DeFrance had a heated custody battle over the boys. According to her family, Jermain had limited resources. DeFrance, it seemed, had more.
Danielle Matt: He had an attorney. … She didn’t have an attorney … Jermain … was working hard to find stability with work.
A judge decided the kids would live with their father and she would have visitation rights. The parenting plan, says her family, was stressful for Jermain. Chayla Russell noticed a change in her cousin’s behavior.
Chayla Russell: Michael had the boys and so she was lonely and scared for her safety.
Michelle Miller: She was scared for her safety?
Chayla Russell: Yeah … she would talk about having nightmares or being scared to be alone …
After Jermain’s disappearance, investigators would discover something else about Michael DeFrance.
Jill Valley | KPAX anchor: Detectives realize that he was in possession of firearms, which is against the law when you’ve been convicted of partner family member assault.
Investigators seized guns from Michael DeFrance’s property. In 2021, he was arrested and charged with possessing firearms – a violation of his 2013 sentence. KPAX anchor and reporter Jill Valley covered the federal trial.
Jill Valley: On one side it’s the DeFrance family … on the other side it’s Jermain’s family and friends. And it is tense. I don’t think there’s any love lost between those two families.
In 2023, Michael DeFrance was convicted and sentenced to 21 months in prison. He hasn’t served any time because he is appealing the conviction. “48 Hours” requested an interview through his attorney. He declined our request.
In their effort to find Jermain, authorities secured numerous search warrants, including at least two on DeFrance’s property.
But because this is an active investigation, many of the search warrants have been sealed.
Brittany Williams: Dozens of searches … for Jermain over the last six years. … there have been canine searches … Canines who are trained to detect bodies.
Det. Guy Baker: Every place that we’ve searched has not yielded the evidence that would give us the answer.
Michelle Miller: What do you think happened to her and why?
Det. Guy Baker: All I can say without compromising the investigation is I think Jermain’s disappearance is a result of a criminal action. … and somebody knows what happened to Jermain, and we need their — their assistance. Somebody knows something.
Something that always baffled Baker is what happened to Jermain’s cellphone. Turns out, DeFrance provided an answer.
WHAT HAPPENED TO JERMAIN CHARLO’S CELLPHONE?
Evaro Hill is the last known area where Jermain’s cellphone was active. According to investigators it was pinging between 2 a.m. and 10 a.m. the morning after she was last seen.
Brittany Williams: It’s a very heavily forested area, lots of different wildlife … And then, one — sole highway that runs through the top of Evaro Hill.
It’s the area where Jermain’s ex, Michael DeFrance, was living. In his initial statement to police, he said that he’d dropped Jermain off in Missoula around 1 a.m., and that she had her phone with her. So why was it active on Evaro Hill, roughly 14 miles north of Missoula, hours later? DeFrance changed his story and said her phone was with him.
Brittany Williams: In a subsequent interview, he provided a statement that she left her cellphone and he attempted to go through her cellphone, and he was unable to get into her cellphone.
What he said he did next surprised Baker. DeFrance admitted that two days after he last saw Jermain, he threw her phone away.
Det. Guy Baker: So, Mr. DeFrance had told us during one of his interviews that he discarded, uh, Jermain’s cellphone in Idaho.
DeFrance, then working as a truck driver, told authorities he disposed of Jermain’s phone in Idaho at mile marker 94 on Highway 12. Law enforcement searched the area, but never found the phone.
Michelle Miller: I have to ask, why would he get rid of her cellphone? What explanation did he have?
Det. Guy Baker: I –
Michelle Miller: You can’t tell me?
Det. Guy Baker: — can’t tell you.
Michelle Miller: … is that unusual that someone would – one, admit to having a missing person’s cellphone and then, two, that they would dispense with it?
Det. Guy Baker: Yeah. Why would you get rid of the cellphone if someone was around to give the phone back to ’em?
Danielle Matt: Why would he have her phone? … Why would he destroy it, throw it out at mile marker what the hell ever … I — I don’t understand.
Brittany Williams: I wouldn’t say Michael DeFrance is not a person of interest. I would say that I’m not at liberty to say who is or who is not a person of interest.
No suspects have been named in connection with Jermain’s disappearance. Police are now considering the case a no body homicide, but without a body, prosecuting a homicide is a challenge.
Brittany Williams: I think it’s important for everyone to know that you only get one bite at the apple here, only one shot. And so I wanna gather as much information to ensure a successful prosecution, should we meet that crossroad.
Brittany Williams: It’s my belief that we are close to moving forward in this case.
Michelle Miller: Moving forward meaning filing charges against a suspect?
Brittany Williams: If it ultimately is determined that this is criminal means, absolutely.
Brittany Williams: Jermain and her family deserve answers. And it is my hope … that someone comes forward, provides us some new lead that can lead to justice.
Det. Guy Baker: I have my cellphone on that billboard, not just the police department’s main number, ’cause I want someone to call me … because I want the information.
The billboard’s location was important to Matt and Morigeau. It looks out toward the reservation and Evaro Hill, where DeFrance was living with Jermain’s two sons.
Dani Matt: I know that Michael would probably have to take that route … to come to Missoula. And I thought, well, the boys might not be able to see her in person, but that picture will be there and … Jacob and Thomas could see their mother … every time they drove by there.
Dani Matt: I hope throughout these years that Thomas and Jacob haven’t forgot who their mother is, and I hope they know that she loves them very much.
In Missoula, there’s a different billboard, this one showing Valenda Morigeau’s face. Her photo stands as a stark reminder of the ongoing crisis of Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women.
Valenda Morigeau: It took me a long time to do that photo shoot because I don’t want people thinking that, like, I want attention on myself. … it’s not about me. It’s about Jermain. … We will no longer be silent about our women going missing. … We have to fight for justice for our loved ones.
Michelle Miller: Do you still plan on searching for Jermain?
Valenda Morigeau: Always … I don’t care how long it takes.
Valenda Morigeau: … I’m never gonna give up on her. I don’t care if I have to search until I’m 80 years old.
Craige Couture | Flathead Reservation police chief: If this case is never solved and I retire, it’s not going away in my mind. … That’ll be one of those things that will be with me until the day I die … That weighs on us. … That weighs on our tribal council. … Everyone here thinks about it.
Six winters have passed since Jermain disappeared. Matt and Morigeau no longer believe she is alive.
Valenda Morigeau: So, I have a gift of when my family makes it to the other side. When my grandma passed away, she came and told me she made it. … When my grandpa passed away, he told me he made it.
Valenda Morigeau: And I had this dream and Jermain was there and she’s like … “I just wanted to tell you I found grandma and grandpa, and I’m fine.” … And she gave me a hug and she turned to walk away. (crying) And I said, “Jermain,” and she goes, “what?” I was like, “where’s your body?” … And she looked me dead in the eyes, she said, “it’s in Evaro.” She’s like, “I love you, but I have to go.”
If you have any information pertaining to Jermain Charlo’s disappearance, contact the Missoula Police Department at 406-552-6284.
Produced by Marcelena Spencer and Emma Steele. Stephen A. McCain is the development producer. Richard Barber is the producer/editor. Diana Modica and George Baluzy are the editors. Peter Schweitzer is the senior producer. Nancy Kramer is the executive story editor. Judy Tygard is the executive producer.
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Man kills self in explosions outside Brazil’s Supreme Court
A man who failed in an attempt to break into Brazil’s Supreme Court killed himself in explosions outside the building Wednesday that forced justices and staff to evacuate, authorities said.
The two strong blasts were heard about 7:30 p.m. after the day’s session finished and all the justices and staff left the building safely, Brazil’s Supreme Court said in a statement.
Local firefighters confirmed one man died at the scene in the capital Brasilia, but did not identify him.
Celina Leão, the lieutenant governor of Brazil’s federal district, said the suspect had earlier detonated explosives in a car in a Congress parking lot, which did not cause injuries.
“His first action was to explode the car. Then he approached the Supreme Court and tried to get in the building. He failed and then there were the other explosions,” Leão said in a news conference.
Local media reported that the car that exploded belonged to a member of Brazil’s Liberal Party, the same of former President Jair Bolsonaro. Leão said only investigations will determine whether the owner of the car is the same man who died in the blasts.
Leão recommended that Congress be closed Thursday to avoid new risks. Brazil’s Senate heeded her call and the lower house will be shut until noon, speaker Arthur Lira said.
“It could have been a lone wolf, like others we’ve seen around the world,” Leão said in a news conference. “We are considering it as a suicide because there was only one victim. But investigations will show if that was indeed the case.”
Leão added only forensics will be able to identify the body, which remained outside the Supreme Court for three hours after the blasts.
The blasts outside the Supreme Court took place about 20 seconds apart in Brasilia’s Three Powers Plaza, where Brazil’s main government buildings, including the Supreme Court, Congress and presidential palace, are located.
President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva was not in the neighboring presidential palace at the time, spokesman José Chrispiniano said.
Police blocked all access to the area and the presidential security bureau was conducting a sweep of the grounds around the presidential palace.
Brazil’s federal police said it is investigating and did not provide a motive.
The Supreme Court in recent years has become a target for threats by far-right groups and supporters of Bolsonaro’s due to its crackdown on the spread of false information. In particular, Justice Alexandre de Moraes has been a focus for their ire.
Lula’s spokesman said that late on Wednesday the leftist leader was gathering at the presidential residence with federal police chief Andrei Rodrigues, and Supreme Court Justices de Moraes and Cristiano Zanin.
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What to know about Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency, led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy
Donald Trump is vowing to reduce wasteful federal spending by tapping two billionaires — Tesla CEO Elon Musk and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy — to spearhead the initiative, which the president-elect is calling the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE.
The appointments, announced by Trump on Tuesday, raise a host of questions about the effort, including whether Musk and Ramaswamy will have the authority to make changes in federal outlays, given that Congress authorizes the nation’s spending, as well as where the businessmen might look to cut spending. Under the plan, meanwhile, DOGE is not an official government department, raising questions about how its powers and how it will operate.
The announcement comes a week after Trump won a second term as president, with voters expressing their dissatisfaction with the economy under the Biden administration. As part of his campaign vows, Trump promised to slash government spending. Musk’s bio on X, the social media platform he bought in 2022, now reads, “The people voted for major government reform.”
“Frankly, it does need to be done again, so every few decades you really need to look at everything,” Elaine Kamarck, a senior fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution who managed the Clinton Administration’s National Performance Review, an effort to cut government spending in the 1990s, told CBS MoneyWatch.
But Kamarck also harbors reservations about Musk and Ramaswamy’s mandate, especially after the former recently suggested he could find more than $2 trillion in savings — almost one-third of the federal government’s $6.7 trillion in annual spending. Two-thirds of that spending is mandatory through programs including Social Security and Medicare, while discretionary spending is largely spent on defense.
“This is the first warning sign that this is going to be a failed operation,” Kamarck said. “That’s insane.”
The Trump campaign didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Here’s what to know about the Department of Government Efficiency.
What is the Department of Government Efficiency?
Trump announced the DOGE in a statement on Tuesday, describing it as an effort to “slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures, and restructure Federal Agencies.”
The name is a nod to Musk’s support for a cryptocurrency called dogecoin, which was created as a joke by two software engineers and uses the image of a smiling Shiba Inu dog. (Dogecoin has more than tripled in price during the last month, and now trades at 38 cents.)
Trump said Musk and Ramaswamy’s work “will conclude no later than July 4, 2026,” or by the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.
Trump only outlined the initiative’s contours and didn’t disclose how it will be staffed or funded. The Trump campaign didn’t respond to a request about the DOGE’s funding or whether Musk or Ramaswamy will be paid for their work on the effort.
Can the DOGE actually cut federal spending?
At the moment, that appears unlikely given that the DOGE isn’t a real government department, which would need to be created by congressional approval. Federal spending is authorized by Congress, and senators and House representatives may hesitate to support cuts to major programs like Social Security or Medicare, which are popular with millions of voters, or to the nation’s military.
It’s also not clear how the organization will operate. It could come under the Federal Advisory Committee Act, which dictates how external groups that advise the government must operate and be accountable to the public.
Trump described Musk and Ramaswamy’s role as providing “advice and guidance from outside of government.”
That doesn’t amount to much, Kamarck said.
“They have no authority — none whatsoever,” she added, while noting that the backing of the president can help convince lawmakers to throw their support behind efficiency efforts.
What have Musk and Ramaswamy said about federal spending?
Musk, the world’s richest person with a net worth of $319 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, has described the U.S. government as bloated and said it its spending is unsustainable. The Tesla founder also said he wants to reduce the number of federal agencies to 99, down from more than 400.
“There are so many [agencies] that people have never heard of, and that have overlapping areas of responsibilities,” Musk said earlier this month.
While on the campaign trail with Trump, Musk also said he could cut “at least $2 trillion” from the annual budget. “Your money is being wasted, and the Department of Government Efficiency will fix that,” Musk said.
Musk is known for cost-cutting at his own companies, slashing most of X’s workforce after he bought the business two years ago as well as focusing on manufacturing costs at Tesla. Even so, those efforts have had mixed results, with X’s valuation falling by about 80% since his purchase. Tesla’s stock price, meanwhile, has surged 48% in the past year, bumping its value above $1 trillion.
Ramaswamy, whom Forbes says has a net worth of about $1 billion, dropped out of the presidential race in January after running on an “anti-woke” campaign. He also advocated for government cuts by eliminating the Department of Education, a goal shared by President-elect Trump.
Have administrations previously tried to cut costs?
Yes, both Republican and Democratic presidents have created efforts to cut government spending.
In 1982, President Ronald Reagan created the Grace Commission, led by wealthy businessman J. Peter Grace, the CEO of W. R. Grace & Company, a chemicals business. About 150 business people volunteered for the commission, which ultimately recommended 2,500 reforms, according to the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.
“Most of the recommendations, especially those requiring legislation from Congress, were never implemented,” the library notes. “However, the Commission’s work provided a starting point for many conservative critiques of the federal government.”
In the 1990s, President Bill Clinton created the National Performance Review with the goal to create a government that would work better and cost less, Kamarck said. The group was staffed with civil servants who understood the bureaucracy, and many of whom had frustrations with it, she added.
The group had some successes in streamlining operations and paring costs, eventually cutting more than 300,000 jobs, according to a study from the Congressional Research Service. Kamarck noted that the group also focused on integrating technology into departments at a time when the internet was just emerging, leading to efficiencies such as online tax filing.
Where could the Trump administration cut spending?
While experts are skeptical of Musk’s claim he can cut $2 trillion in spending, they also point out there are opportunities to look at efficiencies.
Eliminating Medicare fraud is one area that could result in savings, according to the Citizens Against Government Waste, a nonpartisan group that looks at government spending. Its recommendations also include reducing the nation’s contributions to the U.N. and ending subsidies for some agricultural products, like dairy and sugar. Its projected savings: $377 billion in the first year, or about 19% of the $2 trillion that Musk is eyeballing.
But efficiency goes beyond cost-cutting, Kamarck noted. It’s also about understanding how the bureaucracy works,
“Every single thing in the federal government is big and complicated, and there are layers and layers of complexity,” she noted. “Al Gore and I relied on hundreds of experienced civil servants to tell us how this worked — and if you don’t do this, which I suspect they won’t because Musk is an arrogant billionaire, you will fail.”
Does Musk have conflicts of interest?
Yes, as Musk’s SpaceX works with the Department of Defense and NASA, with the federal government pledging $3 billion to his companies last year, according to the New York Times. Tesla, meanwhile, has been investigated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, as well as by other agencies.
Federal employees are generally required to disclose their financial assets and entanglements to ward off any potential conflicts of interest, and to divest significant holdings relating to their work. Because Musk and Ramaswamy would not be formal federal workers, they would not face those requirements or ethical limitations.
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