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Nicole Kidman on the challenges of filming “Babygirl”
I last talked with Nicole Kidman for “Sunday Morning” several years ago. Not much has happened since then. Just kidding! Kidman is in the middle of a “golden era,” following her Emmy-winning turn in the TV series “Big Little Lies.”
To name just two of her recent projects: the TV series “The Perfect Couple,” co-starring Liev Schreiber; and “Special Ops: Lioness,” with Zoe Saldaña.
Is the sense that time is fleeting part of why she has been so prolific? “Yeah, probably,” Kidman said.
She’s still the better half of country great Keith Urban. But the thing Kidman is getting the most attention for these days is a film coming out on Christmas … and what a film it is. In “Babygirl,” Kidman plays a happily married, successful CEO who is in some ways unfulfilled, so she takes up with a handsome intern (Harris Dickinson, of “Triangle of Sadness”) who knows just how to scratch her particular itch.
I asked, “Was there any point where you thought, ‘Oh, I don’t know if I can do this’?”
“Yeah, yeah. And a lot of it is stamina, ’cause I’m in every frame of the film,” she replied.
To watch a trailer for “Babygirl,” click on the video player below:
Kidman is committed to working a lot with female directors, and in Halina Reijn’s hands, the film is intense and relentless.
I asked: “Do you think part of what makes you do your job – “
“Weird?” Kidman offered.
“Well … weird, yeah, that’s where I was going with that?”
“You can say it!”
“Do you think part of what makes you a good actor is that ability to feel intensely?”
“Probably the thing that I have is the ability to feel, like, really feel,” Kidman said. “I go into hospitals. Keith and I will work where we go … he’ll bring his guitar and we’ll just, you know, in the oncology units. And I have to not absorb someone else’s emotions.”
“Because that’s your tendency? That’s what you tend to do?”
“Yeah. And Keith’s always said, ‘You’re like a raw egg that I have to be the shell for.'”
Kidman doesn’t look all that vulnerable, but when she’s not out being a global superstar, she’s a complete homebody. In fact, the daily routine at her Nashville home, with Keith and their two daughters, might sound a lot like yours. “We have breakfast together every morning, so even if I’m working, I’m up. And then dinners. I also like putting on my jammies and coming home.”
“Are you a homebody?”
“Yeah, putting on my bed socks. But we do have a rule: You can’t put your pajamas on before 5:00 p.m.”
“Why do you have that rule?”
“Because otherwise, you can get into them a lot earlier. Not a good thing!”
But there have been moments, Kidman says, when she seriously thought about being a full-time stay-at-home mom – giving up the whole acting thing. She says that in 2008, after she gave birth to her daughter, Sunday, “I was like, ‘Well, I think I’m pretty much done now.’ I had moved to Nashville. We were living on a farm. And that’s when my mom actually said, ‘I wouldn’t give up completely. Keep a finger sort of in it.’ And I’m like, ‘No, no. I’m done now. I’m done.’ She’s going, ‘Just listen to me. I think, keep moving forward. Not saying that you have to do it to the level you’ve been doing it, but I wouldn’t give it up completely.'”
After that, Kidman went on to do some of the best work of her career, and this past April she received the lifetime achievement award from the American Film Institute. Her pal Meryl Streep did the honors that night, speaking of Nicole: “The hardest part is when you come up against, or you’re acting with another person who is also really, really, really, really, really, really great. That’s difficult for me!”
Kidman said the honor felt strange. “‘Cause at first I was like, ‘I’m not sure I want this right now. Does that mean it’s over?'”
But for Kidman, who’s already picked up a Golden Globe nomination for her performance in “Babygirl,” the year’s stratospheric highs have been tempered by a devastating loss: Her mother, Jannele, died in September at age 84, as Kidman was en route to the Venice Film Festival for a screening of “Babygirl.”
I asked Kidman, “Did you share with her what it was about?”
“Yeah. She knew. She knew everything,” she replied. “That’s probably the biggest loss, is you lose the person that knows everything, that loves you anyway. I love when people say, ‘There is no limit to your grief. You don’t have to have a time limit on it. You don’t have to be all better by this time.’ So, you’re allowed to constantly let it pass through in waves. … People go, ‘Oh, well, whatever.’ But it’s my mama, my life, and I’m allowed to process it and grieve in the way I want to.”
“Yeah, there is no time limit. And it does come in waves.”
“Yeah, it’s weird.”
“And you never know when it’s gonna hit.”
“Yeah, it’s like it’s a different road,” Kidman said. “When my papa passed – and I suppose it’s good to talk about it all, because so many people in the world are going through it – but it’s just a whole other thing, both parents gone. Just like, ‘Whoa. Okay. Wow.'”
“But that’s okay. And I appreciate your sharing it. Because, like you said, people –”
“Move on quick!” Kidman laughed. “Now I’m embarrassed!”
Kidman may keep her emotions within easy reach, but that’s not a bad thing: In the same face that you might see torrents of rage and grief, you can just as easily see happiness and hope.
I asked her, “Do you feel like this now is a moment – you know, all of these awards, the festivals, several hit television series – do you feel like you’re in this moment right now?”
“No,” Kidman replied. “I’m just me. But I think ’cause I’ve had so many years of so many different things happening and I’m fully cognizant of where I am, I’m wide awake. I’m in this world. I’m curious, and grateful, and amazed. I love the word wonder, ’cause I still have a lot of wonder, and a lot of excitement about what’s to come.”
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Waltz says federal agencies are “pointing at each other” to figure out mysterious drone sightings
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“We need to know who’s behind it,” said Rep. Mike Waltz, a Republican from Florida who is President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for national security adviser. “But right now, I think law enforcement seems to be…the Department of Homeland Security and the Defense Department are kind of doing this and pointing at each other.”
Speaking on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Sunday, Waltz said he believes the drone issue — which sparked outcry and demands for answers from civilians and leaders alike — highlights lapses in authority between local law enforcement and federal agencies like the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security.
“I think Americans are finding it hard to believe we can’t figure out where these are coming from,” he added. “It’s pointing to gaps in our capabilities and in our ability to clamp down on what’s going on here. And we need to get to the bottom of it.”
Sen. Amy Klobuchar, a Minnesota Democrat, echoed the congressman’s concern in a separate interview Sunday on “Face the Nation.” In addition to a briefing for members of the Senate to discuss the situation, she also called for “more transparency” and “new regulatory rules in place” for drone use.
“We’ve got to figure out, do we really want all these drones? Because while these may be safe, who knows what happens in the future?” said Klobuchar. “They have to be within 400 feet [from the ground], so these things are going to be what? Flying over people’s family picnics and over their homes and over beaches? This is not going to be a good future if we see too many of these.”
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York, announced Sunday that he is working to pass a bill in the Senate that would give local authorities more resources for drone detection. He also asked Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas to deploy drone-detection technology to New York and New Jersey.
“The laws on where and when and who can fly drones are rather limited. This legislation will help,” Schumer said at a briefing. “We’ve talked to the Homeland Security and the FBI and we told them we need answers quickly.”
Amid the comments from lawmakers, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” that he had seen drones from over his own house.
“Two mornings ago, over my house at 6:15 in the morning, I saw them myself,” Christie said. “So did my wife, and so yeah, they’re there. And I’ve been traveling around New Jersey, as I normally do, all week. And I can’t tell you the number of people have come to me concerned about it.”
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said Sunday that her state would be receiving a drone detection system from the federal government.
“I am grateful for the support, but we need more. Congress must pass a law that will give us the power to deal directly with the drones,” the governor said in a statement.
Drones have been spotted in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and other eastern states, sometimes flying near military installations as well as near Trump’s golf course in Bedminister, New Jersey. A federal official said Thursday that the FBI was leading the investigation into the sightings. An FBI official told CBS News the same day that the agency had received several thousand tips, and local law enforcement was also investigating.
Republican Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey suggested last week that there was an Iranian “mothership” off the East Coast of the United States launching the drones, which Pentagon spokeswoman Sabrina Singh refuted.
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Sen. Amy Klobuchar says presidential pardon process “cries out for reform”
Washington — Sen. Amy Klobuchar, a Minnesota Democrat, said Sunday that the entire presidential pardoning process “cries out for reform” following some controversial commutations and pardons made by President Biden, including when the president issued a blanket pardon of his own son, Hunter.
“This whole process cries out for reform because otherwise you undermine the justice system,” Klobuchar said on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan.”
The White House announced early Thursday that President Biden was commuting the sentence of nearly 1,500 people, marking the widest reaching clemency granted by a president in a single day. Among the individuals, many of whom had been placed on home confinement during the COVID-19 pandemic, were some who have sparked controversy in recent days — including a judge involved in a so-called “Kids for Cash” scheme.
Klobuchar interjected that she “did not like that one,” adding that she did not agree with all the pardons and commutations.
“I have no doubt there were some righteous pardons in this group,” Klobuchar said. “But there were a number that I think make no sense at all.”
Further, she said she didn’t agree with Mr. Biden’s pardon of his son, Hunter, earlier this month.
Klobuchar noted that she has also disagreed with a number of pardons that President-elect Donald Trump made during his first term. And the Minnesota Democrat said that while the pardon ability is part of the Constitution and has a long history that she said wouldn’t be changed, she would advocate for reforms.
“We should have some kind of an outside board that governors have,” she said. “Governors have the ability to give mercy to people after years have gone by, but a lot of them have boards that make recommendations and other things, instead of people just doing it in the middle of the night.”
Klobuchar suggested that over a year-long period, a board could look at individual petitions rather than large groups, which she argued undermines the work of FBI agents and prosecutors who took on the cases.
“Might you want mercy 10 years later?” Klobuchar said. “Yes, you might. But let’s at least look at these on a factual basis and a risk basis, instead of just in the middle of the night a month before a president leaves.”