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Transcript: Teamsters president Sean O’Brien on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Sept. 1, 2024

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The following is a transcript of an interview with Sean O’Brien, president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” that aired on Sept. 1, 2024.


NANCY CORDES: We turn now to Sean O’Brien. He is the president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, one of the nation’s largest labor unions, and he joins us this morning from Boston. President O’Brien, thank you so much for being with us on this Labor Day weekend. I want to start out by asking you about endorsements, you lead one of the 10 largest unions in this country, and I want to put this graphic up. Take a look. The other nine have all issued their endorsements for President of the United States. They’ve all endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate, Tim Walz. It is now September 1. Where has summer gone? When do the teamsters plan to announce who they are endorsing?

SEAN O’BRIEN: Well, I think historically, the teamsters have always endorsed after both respective conventions. This is a little different. This time, under our leadership, we brought every single candidate to the table in front of our rank and file members and our general executive board, and we’re waiting on Vice President Harris to commit to come meet with us.

NANCY CORDES: And I believe her campaign- campaign says they are working with you to figure out a date for that. You know, her policies are more or less in line with the current President, who you did sit down with when you thought that he was going to be the nominee, when we all thought he was going to be the nominee. Are there any concerns that you have about Harris possibly being less pro labor, less pro union than the current President?

SEAN O’BRIEN: So our union is a lot different than most unions. We represent 1.3 million members. Half of our members are Republicans, half of our members are Democrats. So we have to serve all of our membership equally. Look, everybody has a different style of leadership. We want the opportunity to sit down with Vice President Harris. I mean, I said to someone the other day, you don’t hire someone unless you give them an interview. And you know, this is our opportunity to ask her about Teamster specific issues and also labor issues. So until we have that meeting, you know, obviously we will wait to make that determination.

NANCY CORDES: Very quickly, you didn’t endorse anyone back in 1996, is that- is there a possibility that could happen again?

SEAN O’BRIEN: Look, we want to make sure we make the best decision and endorse the best candidate for labor. You know, 1996 was a long time ago. It’s all going to be driven by our rank and file members and our leadership. We’re a very, very Democratic union.

NANCY CORDES: Got it. Sean O’Brien, stay with us. We’re going to have more questions for you after the break. We’ll be right back.

NANCY CORDES: Welcome back to Face the Nation. We continue our conversation now with Teamsters President Sean O’Brien. Mr. O’Brien, thanks so much for sticking with us. One of your fellow unions, the United Auto Workers, filed federal labor charges against the Republican nominee Donald Trump after he seemed to celebrate the notion of firing workers who go on strike. That happened in a conversation that he was having with Elon Musk. Are you with the UAW on this? Do you support the action they took?

SEAN O’BRIEN: Look, I support anybody that attacks labor, they should be held accountable, and any organization that’s going to hold them accountable. I can’t speak for the UAW. But if you recall when those remarks were made by former President Trump, I was the first union to call them out, call the administration out, and call, quite frankly, Elon Musk out. I’ve been fighting corporate billionaires in greed for the last two and a half years. And you know, UAW feels they have a right to file a NLRB charge, that’s their right. I’ve got a right to call out former President Trump or anybody else that attacks labor.

NANCY CORDES: Yeah, if I’m remembering correctly, you called it economic terrorism. How did it go over with your members?

SEAN O’BRIEN: Look, our members love the fact that they have a voice, that they have the ability to stand up and fight corporate America. It’s been a long time coming. Over the last two and a half years, the Teamsters union has had 226 strikes. We’ve grown more than we ever have. So there is a great appetite for the fight with our rank and file members, and our rank and file members enable us to fight for them day in and day out.

NANCY CORDES: That’s a perfect segue into my next question, which is about union membership in this country. It is Labor Day weekend, after all. So let’s take a look at the state of union labor in this country. About 10% of the US workforce are union members, down from about 20% in 1983. A majority of Americans say that’s bad. That decline is bad for working people. Is the decline irreversible in your view?

SEAN O’BRIEN: The decline is definitely irreversible. Now let’s look back, you know, to 1983 that’s when a bipartisan congressional bill was passed, trucking deregulation, and we lost 400,000 members. A lot of companies went bankrupt. So you know, although there’s a lot of politicians taking credit for the labor movement of the last couple of years, they’re the same politicians that caused this problem that we face today. But to answer your question, I think we are definitely on the upswing. We have proved how valuable the American worker is to this country, especially through one of the biggest crisis we faced was a pandemic, and that has obviously incentivized workers to form unions, and we’ve got to work collaboratively with both sides to make sure that people be able to organize without retribution or retaliation moving forward, and that’s up to politicians, whether an R or D or I.

NANCY CORDES:  5:37  

You know, you shared that message at the Republican Convention, a move that some members of Teamsters leadership did- did not approve of. They were pretty vocal about that. It appears that it also cost you a speaking slot at the Democratic Convention. Did the Democrats ever tell you why they didn’t give you a chance to speak?

SEAN O’BRIEN: No, they didn’t. And look, I’m going to say this, whatever the critics out there, and they’re very few, in the leadership. Whenever I get an opportunity to highlight the American worker, especially the Teamster worker, I’m going to take any and all venue. We asked both conventions, respectively, at the same time, and the Republican National Convention immediately responded to us. Didn’t try and edit any of our messages, and I was hopeful that the Democrats would do the same, but they didn’t. I’m not upset about it, but I can tell you this, my rank and file members, who have been lifelong Democrats, are not happy about it.

NANCY CORDES:  6:32  

I know there were some members of the union who spoke, but that’s not the same as having the leader of the organization speak. Very quickly, did you choose to speak at the Republican Convention, which is a pretty unusual move for a union leader, because you feel that Trump has been more pro labor than past Republican nominees?

SEAN O’BRIEN: No, not at all. I spoke there because it was the ability to highlight how important we are. It was the ability to call out the people, the corporate elitist who forget who built this country, the American workers. You know, people like to, you know, have their own opinions on why we were there, but I was there to talk about the American workers. It wasn’t an endorsement for any and all Republicans. It was strictly a message about how important and how valuable we are, and to let the people know that fight us every day, that we’re not going away.

NANCY CORDES: Understood. Sean O’Brien, president of the Teamsters, thanks so much, and we’ll be looking forward to hearing who your union eventually endorses. Thanks for being here, and we’ll be right back.



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Which CD account should you open now that the Fed’s cut rates again?

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While rate cuts have reduced what savers can earn with CDs, there are still valuable options to explore now.

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Expectations that the Federal Reserve would cut its benchmark interest rate yet again became a reality on Wednesday when the Fed did just that, issuing a 25 basis point reduction. That brings the federal funds rate to a range between 4.25% and 4.50%. The move was the third such reduction made by the Fed this year and has brought the rate down a combined full percentage point from where it was in early September. But it came after two recent inflation readings showed that rate increasing, so the forecast for additional rate reductions in 2025 is now unclear.

Against this backdrop, savers who were able to capitalize on an elevated rate climate via certificate of deposit (CD) accounts may be pondering their next move. Whether they have a current account approaching maturity or are considering a new one, it helps to know which type to open in today’s evolving rate climate. Below, we’ll break down what to consider (and what to avoid) now that the Fed’s cut rates yet again.

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Which CD account should you open now that the Fed’s cut rates again?

The decision surrounding which CD account to open right now is a personal one, depending on your financial circumstances and your ability to keep your money untouched for the full CD term (or length). That noted, on the surface, it may be tempting to open a short-term CD now. A 3-month CD or a 6-month CD, for example, has a rate of 4.50% now. 2-year CDs, meanwhile, have rates of 4.25% while 3-year and 5-year CDs have the same. So if your goal is to earn the highest rate, a short-term CD account can accomplish that goal. But if you’re looking to earn as much interest as possible – which most savers are – a long-term account is the better option.

Let’s use $10,000 as an example. That amount deposited in a 6-month CD now will result in $222.52 earned upon maturity. But that same amount in a 2-year CD would leave you with $868.06 earned and $2,313.47 in a 5-year account. And that wide discrepancy in returns isn’t the only reason to open a long-term CD now.

With three Fed rate cuts already issued in 2024 and others likely for 2025, returns on all CD accounts, no matter the term, will continue to decline. But that won’t be a concern with a long-term CD since interest rates on CDs are fixed – the rate you open the account with will remain the same one your account matures with. Not only will this allow for predictable returns but it will allow your money to grow undisturbed, regardless of any Fed rate activity during that period. And considering that CD rates were barely above 1% in 2020 or 2021, locking in today’s still attractive rates for the long term can be beneficial for a wide swath of savers.

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What about high-yield savings accounts?

In recent years, high-yield savings accounts, which had rates comparable to the top CDs, were considered a good alternative. These accounts operate like traditional savings accounts do but at much higher interest rates. And while they’re still relatively high, the rates on these accounts are variable and liable to change as the interest rate climate evolves. That means additional reductions in line with the Fed’s actions, even if they don’t fall by the same proportion. So, if you want to maintain access to your funds, which CDs won’t allow, then a high-yield savings account could still be worth exploring. But if you’re able to leave your money in a CD for the long term, that’s arguably the better way to both protect and grow your savings.

The bottom line

Action taken by the Fed will require both borrowers and savers to be nimble in their approach. For many, this could mean moving a portion of their funds into a long-term CD account to both exploit today’s high rates – and maintain them in the face of additional rate cuts to come. Others, however, may be better served by using a high-yield savings account instead. No matter your situation, however, it’s important to have at least some money in a high-earning account now. With rate changes inevitable, it makes sense to earn as much interest as possible while you still can.

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What are seed oils and do they pose health risks? Here’s what to know

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Seed oils are making headlines, prompting fears around whether they can negatively affect your health. 

Earlier this week, a study published in the journal Gut led to headlines likening seed oils to colon cancer fuel — but already some experts have said the headlines are misleading

For a fuller picture of seed oils, here’s what to know. 

What are seed oils?

Unlike other vegetable oils, which are derived from the fruit of a plant, seed oils are derived from the seed of a plant. For example, sunflower oil is made from sunflower seeds, making it a seed oil, whereas olive oil is made from whole olives, the fruit of the plant. 

Some seed oils like sesame, for example, can also be fragrant and add flavor to a dish or dressing, making them popular in some kitchens.

What health risks do they pose?

“Based on the evidence we have, seed oils don’t pose any health risks,” Kristina Petersen, associate professor of nutritional sciences at Penn State University, told CBS News. “In fact, when you look at the evidence, it shows that intake of seed oils, instead of fats like butter and other animal fats, actually improves blood cholesterol levels and lowers risk of diseases like heart disease (and) Type 2 diabetes.”

Dr. Steven Shamah, director of endoscopy at Lenox Hill Hospital, told CBS News, “everything in moderation.”

Like all oils, seed oils contain fat, which is important for a balanced diet but in certain quantities. But the type of fat, saturated or unsaturated, is also important. 

Saturated fats — found in meat, dairy and coconut — can raise both “good” and “bad” cholesterol levels, making limited intake recommended. The American Heart Association recommends that no more than 5% to 6% of your daily calories come from saturated fats.

Seed oils are rich in unsaturated fats, which can include both monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats. Research suggests these fats may decrease “bad” and raise “good” cholesterol. 

These oils are also high in the omega-6 fatty acid linoleic acid, which, while essential for bodily functions, should be balanced with omega-3 fatty acids, Shamah said. 

“Linoleic acid, commonly found in seed oils in small amounts, is beneficial; however, in large amounts, puts significant stress on many forms of beneficial bacteria in the microbiome,” Shamah said, adding overconsumption can be common in modern diets because seed oils are in many processed foods.

Why do some people consider seed oils bad for your health?

Seed oil critics say linoleic acid, a omega-6 fatty acid found in these oils, breaks down into toxins when used for cooking, causing numerous health issues including inflammation, a weakened immune system and contributing to chronic illnesses.

While linoleic acid can be converted into arachidonic acid in the body, experts say this is not cause for concern. 

Petersen said these claims of “toxic by-products” are common on social media, but clinical trial data shows markers of inflammation don’t change when people eat the omega-6 fatty acid linoleic acid. Plus, only a small percentage (about 0.2%) of omega-6s is converted to arachidonic acid, according to Massachusetts General Hospital. 

Dr. Christopher Gardner, a professor of medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine in California and a nutrition scientist at the Stanford Prevention Research Center, also told the American Heart Association earlier this year that this argument around omega-6 fatty acids is flawed. While omega-6 can be pro-inflammatory, the amount of inflammation it’s associated with has not been shown to be harmful.

“Omega-6 is a polyunsaturated fat the body needs but cannot produce itself, so it must get it from foods,” Gardner said. “Polyunsaturated fats help the body reduce bad cholesterol, lowering the risk for heart disease and stroke. The American Heart Association supports the inclusion of omega-6 fatty acids as part of a healthy diet.”

People may not realize how much seed oils they’re eating because of the many processed foods that contain them. But instead of demonizing seed oils, Gardner argues the real concern should be overeating ultra-processed foods, which can have negative health impacts due to high levels of other ingredients like high-fructose corn syrup, sugar and sodium.

List of widely used seed oils

Commonly used seed oils include:

  • Canola
  • Corn
  • Sunflower
  • Pumpkin seed
  • Chia seed
  • Sesame
  • Peanut
  • Grapeseed
  • Soybean

List of widely used oils that aren’t seed oils

Common oils that aren’t derived from seeds include: 



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Federal Reserve cuts interest rates by 0.25 percentage points, its third reduction this year

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The Federal Reserve on Wednesday announced its third consecutive interest rate cut of 2024, reducing its benchmark rate by 0.25 percentage points amid cooling inflation. The central bank has now trimmed rates by 1 percentage point since September, offering relief to Americans carrying credit card balances and other debt.

The Fed lowered the federal funds rate — the interest rate banks charge each other for short-term loans — to a range of 4.25% to 4.5%, down from its previous target range of 4.5% to 4.75%. The decision comes after policymakers slashed rates by 0.5 percentage points in September, followed by a 0.25 percentage point drop in November. 

Wednesday’s move marks the Fed’s final interest rate decision prior to President-elect Donald Trump’s Jan. 20 inauguration. While price increases have cooled from their June 2022 peak, opening the door to Fed rate cuts this year, inflation has remained sticky and well above the Fed’s 2% annual target. 

Consumer prices in November rose 2.7% on a yearly basis, fueled by elevated housing and food costs. Given that stubborn inflation, many analysts think the Fed is likely to make fewer rate cuts in 2025 amid concerns that could cause the economy to overheat. 

At the same time, the Fed has so far defied forecasters’ warnings that its rate hikes could trigger a recession.

“While the Fed’s 2% inflation target has proven elusive so far, it has been successful in bringing inflation down from its highs without derailing an economy that continues to hum along,” noted Joe Gaffoglio, CEO of Mutual of America Capital Management, in an email before the Fed announcement. “However, if inflation continues to stay above target in the new year, the markets may be too optimistic on how many cuts the Fed may deliver.”

The Fed’s first rate meeting of 2025 is scheduled for Jan. 28-29, or after Trump’s inauguration. About eight in 10 economists expect the Fed to hold rates steady at that meeting, according to financial data firm FactSet.

—This is a developing story and will be updated.



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