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The following is a transcript of an interview with Sen. Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina, on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” that aired on Oct. 6, 2024.


MARGARET BRENNAN: We’re joined by North Carolina Republican senator Thom Tillis, his state is among six recovering from Hurricane Helene, and he joins us from Charlotte. Senator, I am sorry for the losses that you have experienced. 116 dead, your state hit the hardest here. What does North Carolina need?

SEN. THOM TILLIS (R-NC): We- we need increased attention. We need to con- continue to increase the surge of federal resources. I’m glad to see, finally, we’re getting movement out of Fort Liberty and out of Kentucky with the 82nd Airborne, 101st. This- this is unlike anything that we’ve seen in this state. The scope of it is the size of the state of Massachusetts, and we need all hands on deck.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Senator, I want to talk in depth about exactly what you need on the other side of this commercial break. Stay with us.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome back to “Face the Nation”. We continue with North Carolina Republican senator, Thom Tillis. Senator, before the break, you were telling us that you had finally seen some movement from the 82nd Airborne. I know President Biden had approved 1000 U.S. Army personnel to support the National Guard. What is happening as of today? Are those resources reaching who needs them?

SEN. TILLIS: They are beginning to move. I think they’re moving a little bit more slowly than I’d hope. That’s why we have- while we’re working with the ground, I want to thank all the local, state, federal responders out there. They’re doing extraordinary work. But we’ve got to plus up the resources out there into some of the hardest hit areas, areas that we haven’t even reached yet. And I for one, think that can be done through the- through the leadership of an active duty DOD personnel working with the state and- and with the National Guard. We just need to surge more resources. We’ve got to clear roads. Most roads, you still have to assume, are closed in western North Carolina. I’ve been out there twice this week. I’ll be out there every day- last week, every day this week. But just the basics of debris removal for rescue operations, things that the Department of Defense, the 82nd Airborne, the 101st, are accustomed to doing in battle situations are exactly what we need in western North Carolina.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So you would prefer the military be in the lead and not FEMA? Is that right?

SEN. TILLIS: What I believe is that it has to be a coordinated response, and FEMA knows how to do this well. They’ve done it in other major disaster events. The- the American people and people in North Carolina need to understand, the scope of this storm is more like Katrina. It may look like a flood to the outside observer, but again, this is a land mass roughly the size of the state of Massachusetts, with damage distributed throughout. We have to get the maximum resources on the ground immediately to finish rescue operations and then, sadly, be there for recovery and rebuilding.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I noticed that a state senator in North Carolina named Kevin Corbin had been posting on Facebook asking people to stop “conspiracy theory junk,” as he called it, including claims the government’s controlling the weather or stealing donation money. Who or what is fueling that kind of misinformation? And do you think it’s harming recovery efforts?

SEN. TILLIS: Well, Margaret, one- one people- I’ve been involved in a number of storm responses, and this is when I believe discipline is absolutely essential. Kevin is a friend of mine, and he’s right to call out people. Many of these- these observations are not even from people on the ground. I believe that we have to stay focused on rescue operations, recovery operations, clearing operations, and we don’t need any of these distractions on the ground. It’s at the expense of hard working first responders and people that are just trying to recover their lives. So I think they should listen to Kevin’s advice and do the same. Look, if there are any challenges, call my office. We’ll track them down if there are real issues. But quite honestly, most of what I’ve seen out there is a distraction and not helping the core of the effort right here, which is to save lives and- and start rebuilding.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Former President Trump claimed the federal response in North Carolina was terrible, and emergency funding is being spent on immigrants. Do you know what he’s talking about?

SEN. TILLIS: Well here, let’s- let’s- let’s stipulate the fact that–

MARGARET BRENNAN: Is he right?

SEN. TILLIS: I think that the President is right to say that billions of dollars is being spent as a result of Biden’s failed immigration policies and border policies. However, we have the resources that we need, we’re going to have to go back and pass more resources. We could have a discussion about the failure of this administration’s border policies and the billions of dollars it’s costing. But right now, not yet is it affecting the flow of resources to western North Carolina.

MARGARET BRENNAN: It is not an effector, to be clear? Okay.

SEN. TILLIS: Not at this time.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay. Homeland Security is projecting that FEMA can meet the immediate needs, but they’re not sure if we can make it all the way through hurricane season without more federal help. You’re asking for federal help, but the Speaker of the House is- has said he’s not calling people back early to vote to approve it. Are you going to try to persuade him otherwise when he comes to North Carolina this week?

SEN. TILLIS: Well, I think we have to look at it, because Margaret, we’ve got a storm that’s about to hit Florida that’s going to have additional FEMA surge resource requests over the next week or so. I mean, we’re talking about a major rain event that’s forming down in the Gulf Coast that’s supposed to hit the- two thirds of the state of Florida. Other events could actually draw those funds down. I’m in the camp of, let’s go back. We already know that we need additional resources. Let’s make sure that there’s never a second- there’s never attention drawn to whether or not they can move accounts around to respond to all these floods, not just in North Carolina, but the storm event. So I’m in the camp of, let’s go provide some certainty, then we can come back and do more after the election. 

MARGARET BRENNAN: Well that election is coming soon, and it’s not the federal government that administers it, as you know, but we do know in your state, there are some concerns that Helene could impact the ability of North Carolinians to either vote in person or via absentee ballot. What is the state doing at this point? Does there need to be more attention to that?

SEN. TILLIS: The state’s doing a great job. I’ve spoken with Leader Berger and Speaker Moore and- and others in the legislature. They’re coming back this week. They’re taking lessons from Louisiana, a number of other states who have had to provide ballot access and voting access in difficult situations like this. They’ll be passing legislative matters this week to address it. I think that North Carolina will be prepared to make sure that everybody who wants to vote will have access to the ballot and vote before Election Day or on Election Day.

MARGARET BRENNAN: All right, Senator, a developing story we’ll continue to track. We’ll be right back.



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American and U.K. climbers rescued after 2 days stranded on Himalayan mountains in India

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An American climber was rescued after she and another alpinist from the U.K. were stranded for two days at more than 20,000 feet in the Himalayan mountains.

Michelle Dvorak, 31, and Fay Manners, 37, went missing on Thursday after their equipment and food tumbled down a ravine while trekking up India’s Chaukhamba mountain, CBS News partner BBC reported.

The pair sent an emergency message but search and rescue teams were unable to find them.

Rescued British and U.S. climbers pose for a photo with rescuers in Joshimath, Uttarakhand
Rescued British and U.S. climbers pose for a photo with rescuers in Joshimath, Uttarakhand, India on October 6, 2024.

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Manners told the BBC they were “terrified” as they tried to make part of the descent down the treacherous mountains without supplies.

“I watched the bag tumble down the mountain and I immediately knew the consequence of what was to come,” she said. “We had none of our safety equipment left. No tent. No stove to melt snow for water. No warm clothes for the evening.”

The terrifying ordeal intensified when it started to snow. They took cover on a ledge while waiting for rescuers.

“I felt hypothermic, constantly shaking and with the lack of food my body was running out of energy to keep warm,” Manners said.

The rescue was made difficult because of the conditions, including bad weather, fog and high altitude.

“The helicopter flew passed again, couldn’t see us. We were destroyed,” Manners told the BBC.

British and U.S. climbers are rescued at the location given as Uttarakhand
British and U.S. climbers are rescued at the location given as Uttarakhand, India on October 6, 2024.

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On the second day, the pair began to cautiously abseil down the mountain. They spotted a team of French climbers coming toward them. Manners said they shared their equipment and food and contacted the helicopter company with an exact location.

“I cried with relief knowing we might survive,” she said.

The Indian Air Force said in a post on the X social media platform that their helicopter airlifted the climbers from 17,400 feet after “battling two days of bad weather.”

Chaukhamba is a mountain massif in the Garhwal Himalaya in northern India.



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Biden sends more troops to North Carolina for continued Hurricane Helene response

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President Biden approved the mobilization of another 500 active-duty troops to North Carolina to assist in the recovery efforts after the deadly and devastating Hurricane Helene.

“With a total of 1,500 troops now supplementing a robust on-the-ground effort – including more than 6,100 National Guardsmen and more than 7,000 Federal personnel – the Biden-Harris Administration is mobilizing all relevant resources to support families as they begin their road to rebuilding,” the White House said in a statement Sunday.

Mr. Biden previously announced that the federal government would cover “100%” of costs for debris removal and emergency protective measures in North Carolina for six months. The Biden administration has also released more than $137 million in federal funds – including $100 million in transportation funds for North Carolina to begin rebuilding damaged roads and bridges.

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Businesses are seen in a debris field in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, Wednesday, Oct. 2, 2024, in Chimney Rock Village, N.C.

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More than 800 people unable to return home are staying in lodging provided through FEMA, and 22 shelters are still housing nearly 1,000 people as mobile feeding operations continue to help survivors.

“My Administration is sparing no resource to support families as they begin their road to rebuilding,” Biden said. “We will continue working hand-in-hand with local and state leaders – regardless of political party and no matter how long it takes.”

Earlier Sunday, North Carolina Sen. Thom Tills called for more resources to bolster the relief effort and likened the damage to Hurricane Katrina’s mark on Louisiana in 2005.

“The scope of this storm is more like Katrina,” he told CBS News’ Margaret Brennan on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan”. “It may look like a flood to the outside observer, but again, this is a landmass roughly the size of the state of Massachusetts, with damage distributed throughout. We have to get maximum resources on the ground immediately to finish rescue operations.”


Telecom providers operate emergency communications after Hurricane Helene

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Mr. Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump have all traveled to some of the impacted regions.

Hurricane Helene caused catastrophic damage from Florida into the Appalachian mountains and killed more than 225 people across multiple states. That number includes 114 killed in North Carolina alone.

The White House said Mr. Biden has also been briefed on Hurricane Milton, which is forecast to make landfall in Florida’s Tampa Bay area as a major storm on Wednesday.

U.S. disaster relief chief blasts false claims about Helene response

Deanne Criswell, who leads the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said on Sunday that the recent false claims and conspiracy theories about the federal response to the storm are “demoralizing” aid workers.

“It’s frankly ridiculous, and just plain false. This kind of rhetoric is not helpful to people,” she said. “It’s really a shame that we’re putting politics ahead of helping people, and that’s what we’re here to do. We have had the complete support of the state,” she said, referring to North Carolina.

Georgia Continues Recovery Efforts In Aftermath Of Hurricane Helene
A ‘We Need Power’ sign is seen as people deal with the aftermath of Hurricane Helene on October 05, 2024, in Greenwood, South Carolina.

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Republicans, led by Trump, have helped foster a frenzy of misinformation over the past week among the communities most devastated by Helene, promoting a number of false claims, including that Washington is intentionally withholding aid to people in Republican areas.

Trump accused FEMA of spending all its money to help immigrants who are in the United States illegally, while other critics assert that the government spends too much on Israel, Ukraine and other foreign countries.

Tillis, a Republican, on Sunday rejected that claim, telling “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” that resources being used on immigration is “not yet … affecting the flow of resources to western North Carolina.”

Tillis said the stream of misinformation about relief efforts in North Carolina is a “distraction.”

“I believe that we have to stay focused on rescue operations, recovery operations, clearing operations, and we don’t need any of these distractions on the ground,” Tillis said. “It’s at the expense of hard-working first responders and people that are just trying to recover their lives.”

Mr. Biden said in a statement Sunday that his administration “will continue working hand-in-hand with local and state leaders –- regardless of political party and no matter how long it takes.”



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Rep. Mike Turner says all “candidates need to deescalate” after Trump assassination attempts

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Rep. Mike Turner says all “candidates need to deescalate” after Trump assassination attempts – CBS News


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House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Mike Turner tells “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” that in the wake of the assassination attempts on former President Donald Trump “all the candidates need to deescalate, especially in their language.” But when asked if there’s anything to imply Eric Trump’s allegation that Democrats are “trying to kill” Trump is true, Turner said “of course not.”

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